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2024-04-18, 18:24
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Ursprungligen postat av Kirev
https://jimdukeperspective.com/lucis...cifer-worship/

https://www.lucistrust.org/world_goo...united_nations

Intressant hur Lucis(fer )trust har en djävuls ”trident”/gaffel som logga liknande den på Ukrainas flagga, men så var ju grundaren av Teosophy ursprungligen från Ukraina regionen.
Om jag inte missminner så härleds denna ukrainska djävuls-gaffel till Rurik-ätten och således har också en Svenskkoppling …

Ett tips är att läsa Helena P. Blavatskys böcker om du skall uttala dig om hennes påstådda ideologi.

Dessutom så är Trident något som finns att hämta i grekisk mytologi och guden Poseidon, som innehar detta instrument som vapen. Så idén med att det skulle vara en "djävuls logga" är hyfsat fel.

Sedan kan du ju läsa nedan lite gällande idén med "djävulen" och Lucifer, från Blavatsky själv.

"Synthetically every Creative Logos, or ʺthe Son who is one with the Father,ʺ is the Host of the Rectores Mundi in itself. Even Christian theology makes of the seven ʺAngels of the Presenceʺ the Virtues, or the personified attributes of God, which, being created by him, as the Manus were by Brahmâ, became Archangels. The Roman Catholic theodice itself recognising, in its creative Verbum Princeps, the head of those angels — caput angelorum — and the magni consilii Angelus (the Angel of the great Counsel), thus recognizes the identity of Christ and those Angels. ʺThe Gods became no Gods, the Sura — A‐sura,ʺ says the text; i.e., gods became fiends — SATAN, when read literally. But Satan will now be shown, in the teaching of the Secret Doctrine, allegorized as Good, and Sacrifice, a God of Wisdom, under different names. The Kabala teaches that Pride and Presumption — the two chief prompters of Selfishness and Egotism — are the causes that emptied heaven of one third of its divine denizens — mystically, and of one third of the stars — astronomically; in other words, the two statements are — the first an allegory, and the second a fact. The former, nevertheless, as shown, is intimately connected with humanity.

In their turn the Rosicrucians, who were well acquainted with the secret meaning of the tradition, kept it to themselves, teaching merely that the whole of creation was due to, and the result of, that legendary ʺWar in Heavenʺ brought on by the rebellion of the angels† against creative law, or the Demiurge. The statement is correct, but the inner meaning is to this day a mystery. To elude further explanation of the difficulty by appealing to divine mystery, or to the sin of prying into its policy — is to say nothing at all. It may prove sufficient to believers in the Popeʹs infallibility, but will hardly satisfy the philosophical mind. Yet the truth, although known to most of the higher Kabalists, has never been told by any of their number. One and all, Kabalists and symbologists, showed an extraordinary reluctance to confess the primitive meaning of the Fall of the Angels. In a Christian such silence is only natural. Neither alchemist nor philosopher could, during the Mediæval Ages, utter that* which in the sight of orthodox theology was a terrible blasphemy, for it would have led them directly through the ʺHolyʺ office of the Inquisition, to stake and rack. But for our modern Kabalists and Freethinkers the case is different. With the latter, we fear, it is merely human pride, vanity based on a loudly rejected and as ineradicable superstition. Since the Church, in her struggle with Manicheeism, invented the devil, and by placing a theological extinguisher on the radiant star‐god, Lucifer, the ʺSon of the Morning,ʺ thus created the most gigantic of all her paradoxes — a black and tenebrous light — the myth has struck its roots too deep in the soil of blind faith to permit, in our age, even those, who do not acquiesce in her dogmas and laugh at her horned and cloven‐footed Satan, to come out bravely and confess the antiquity of the oldest of all traditions. In a few brief words it is this. Semi‐exoterically, the ʺFirst‐bornʺ of the Almighty — Fiat Lux, — or the angels of primordial light, were commanded to create; one third of them rebelled and refused; while those who ʺobeyed as Fetahil did — failedʺ most signally.

To realise the refusal and failure in their correct physical meaning, one must study and understand Eastern philosophy; one has to be acquainted with the fundamental mystical tenets of the Vedantins, with regard to the utter fallacy of attributing functional activity to the infinite and absolute deity. Esoteric philosophy maintains that during the Sandhyas, the ʺCentral Sunʺ emits creative light — passively so to say. Causality is latent. It is only during the active periods of being that it gives rise to a stream of ceaseless energy, whose vibrating currents acquire more activity and potency with every rung of the hebdomadic ladder of Being which they descend. Hence it becomes comprehensible how the process of creating, or rather of fashioning, the organic Universe, with all its units of the seven kingdoms, necessitated intelligent beings — who became collectively a Being or creative God — differentiated already from the one absolute Unity, unrelated as the latter is to conditioned creation."
- Helena P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine.
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2024-04-19, 07:42
  #38
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Ursprungligen postat av sueht1emorp0
Ett tips är att läsa Helena P. Blavatskys böcker om du skall uttala dig om hennes påstådda ideologi.

Dessutom så är Trident något som finns att hämta i grekisk mytologi och guden Poseidon, som innehar detta instrument som vapen. Så idén med att det skulle vara en "djävuls logga" är hyfsat fel.

Sedan kan du ju läsa nedan lite gällande idén med "djävulen" och Lucifer, från Blavatsky själv.

"Synthetically every Creative Logos, or ʺthe Son who is one with the Father,ʺ is the Host of the Rectores Mundi in itself. Even Christian theology makes of the seven ʺAngels of the Presenceʺ the Virtues, or the personified attributes of God, which, being created by him, as the Manus were by Brahmâ, became Archangels. The Roman Catholic theodice itself recognising, in its creative Verbum Princeps, the head of those angels — caput angelorum — and the magni consilii Angelus (the Angel of the great Counsel), thus recognizes the identity of Christ and those Angels. ʺThe Gods became no Gods, the Sura — A‐sura,ʺ says the text; i.e., gods became fiends — SATAN, when read literally. But Satan will now be shown, in the teaching of the Secret Doctrine, allegorized as Good, and Sacrifice, a God of Wisdom, under different names. The Kabala teaches that Pride and Presumption — the two chief prompters of Selfishness and Egotism — are the causes that emptied heaven of one third of its divine denizens — mystically, and of one third of the stars — astronomically; in other words, the two statements are — the first an allegory, and the second a fact. The former, nevertheless, as shown, is intimately connected with humanity.

In their turn the Rosicrucians, who were well acquainted with the secret meaning of the tradition, kept it to themselves, teaching merely that the whole of creation was due to, and the result of, that legendary ʺWar in Heavenʺ brought on by the rebellion of the angels† against creative law, or the Demiurge. The statement is correct, but the inner meaning is to this day a mystery. To elude further explanation of the difficulty by appealing to divine mystery, or to the sin of prying into its policy — is to say nothing at all. It may prove sufficient to believers in the Popeʹs infallibility, but will hardly satisfy the philosophical mind. Yet the truth, although known to most of the higher Kabalists, has never been told by any of their number. One and all, Kabalists and symbologists, showed an extraordinary reluctance to confess the primitive meaning of the Fall of the Angels. In a Christian such silence is only natural. Neither alchemist nor philosopher could, during the Mediæval Ages, utter that* which in the sight of orthodox theology was a terrible blasphemy, for it would have led them directly through the ʺHolyʺ office of the Inquisition, to stake and rack. But for our modern Kabalists and Freethinkers the case is different. With the latter, we fear, it is merely human pride, vanity based on a loudly rejected and as ineradicable superstition. Since the Church, in her struggle with Manicheeism, invented the devil, and by placing a theological extinguisher on the radiant star‐god, Lucifer, the ʺSon of the Morning,ʺ thus created the most gigantic of all her paradoxes — a black and tenebrous light — the myth has struck its roots too deep in the soil of blind faith to permit, in our age, even those, who do not acquiesce in her dogmas and laugh at her horned and cloven‐footed Satan, to come out bravely and confess the antiquity of the oldest of all traditions. In a few brief words it is this. Semi‐exoterically, the ʺFirst‐bornʺ of the Almighty — Fiat Lux, — or the angels of primordial light, were commanded to create; one third of them rebelled and refused; while those who ʺobeyed as Fetahil did — failedʺ most signally.

To realise the refusal and failure in their correct physical meaning, one must study and understand Eastern philosophy; one has to be acquainted with the fundamental mystical tenets of the Vedantins, with regard to the utter fallacy of attributing functional activity to the infinite and absolute deity. Esoteric philosophy maintains that during the Sandhyas, the ʺCentral Sunʺ emits creative light — passively so to say. Causality is latent. It is only during the active periods of being that it gives rise to a stream of ceaseless energy, whose vibrating currents acquire more activity and potency with every rung of the hebdomadic ladder of Being which they descend. Hence it becomes comprehensible how the process of creating, or rather of fashioning, the organic Universe, with all its units of the seven kingdoms, necessitated intelligent beings — who became collectively a Being or creative God — differentiated already from the one absolute Unity, unrelated as the latter is to conditioned creation."
- Helena P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine.
I ingen mening menar jag att någon satan/djävul är i opposition till någon/något associerat till Gud, jag är helt i det klara att de två är ett i den mån att de är sprungna ur och konstant kopplade till samma punkt.
Precis som ditt ”ord och inga visor” dikterande kommentar är direkt kopplat till mitt lättsamma ”freethinker” skriveri
I Blavatsky’s anda vill jag också svänga mig något med Latin - Pax Vobiscum
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