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2024-03-24, 06:37
  #25
Medlem
fernebos avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av allanmadsen
Sainz den store Verstappen dräparen


Nästa säsong återförenade i Redbull tro?

Inte omöjligt! Sainz går från klarhet till klarhet. Till skillnad mot Leclerc.
Citera
2024-03-24, 06:45
  #26
Medlem
Jävla ingen dålig brud Sainz har

Även där är han bäst
Citera
2024-03-24, 06:49
  #27
Medlem
Men nästa Race blir ju på en av de bästa banorna...
Citera
2024-03-24, 06:56
  #28
Medlem
trickydicks avatar
Haha, Günter Steiner intervjuade i depån

Bra race när inte Verstappen var med.
Citera
2024-03-24, 07:04
  #29
Medlem
fernebos avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av OneAndOnly.IceMan
Men nästa Race blir ju på en av de bästa banorna...

Ja, men känns fel med Suzuka så tidigt på säsongen.
Citera
2024-03-24, 07:42
  #30
Medlem
Nu är det tidigt på säsongen så statistiken är ju lite skev och missvisande och vi vet inte allt om vad som pågår i garagen.
Men undra hur Ferrari känner sig.
Hamilton har ett snitt på 2.66 poäng per startat lopp.
Sainz har 20p per startat lopp.

Kan bli så som vissa skriver i tråden. Kan Sainz och RB bli ett par igen eller är Sainz för bra så att han skulle stressa Verstappen för mycket?
Citera
2024-03-24, 07:48
  #31
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av dazzy
Nu är det tidigt på säsongen så statistiken är ju lite skev och missvisande och vi vet inte allt om vad som pågår i garagen.
Men undra hur Ferrari känner sig.
Hamilton har ett snitt på 2.66 poäng per startat lopp.
Sainz har 20p per startat lopp.

Kan bli så som vissa skriver i tråden. Kan Sainz och RB bli ett par igen eller är Sainz för bra så att han skulle stressa Verstappen för mycket?


Får se vad som händer om Nevey flyttar till Ferrari, har ju lite betydelse 2025, men 2026. Kan det vara farligt om det händer.
Citera
2024-03-24, 07:52
  #32
Medlem
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Ursprungligen postat av dazzy
Nu är det tidigt på säsongen så statistiken är ju lite skev och missvisande och vi vet inte allt om vad som pågår i garagen.
Men undra hur Ferrari känner sig.
Hamilton har ett snitt på 2.66 poäng per startat lopp.
Sainz har 20p per startat lopp.

Kan bli så som vissa skriver i tråden. Kan Sainz och RB bli ett par igen eller är Sainz för bra så att han skulle stressa Verstappen för mycket?

Så länge RB har kvar Verstappen så tror jag inte att de vill ha en förare som Sainz. De vill inte ha nån som är för snabb eller som trotsar teamorders. Det skulle bli för mycket konflikter. På det stora hela tror jag de är rätt nöjda med Perez.

Vi får väl se vad som händer inom teamet. Jag skulle inte vara så säker på att Verstappen blir kvar och i så fall är ju Sainz en given värvning.
Citera
2024-03-24, 16:36
  #33
Medlem
Porryhatters avatar
Race Highlights | 2024 Australian Grand Prix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z8sEadieXA

Alonso går från 6 till 8 på grund av Russells crash.

No / Driver: 14 - Fernando Alonso

Decision: Drive through penalty imposed after the Race. Converted to 20 seconds added to the
elapsed time in the race in accordance with Art. 54.3
3 penalty points (total of 3 for the 12 month period).

Reason: The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 63 (George Russell), the driver of Car 14
(Fernando Alonso), team representatives and reviewed positioning/marshalling system data, video, telemetry, team radio, in-car video evidence and telemetry supplied by both teams.

Car 63 crashed at the exit to turn 6 on lap 57. The stewards have extensively reviewed the situation that occurred prior to the crash.

Car 63 (George Russell) was following Car 14 (Fernando Alonso) approximately 0.5 seconds behind as the cars approached turn 6. Alonso explained to the stewards that he intended to approach turn 6 differently, lifting earlier, and with less speed into the corner, to get a better exit. Russell explained to the stewards that from his perspective, Alonso’s manoeuvre was erratic, took him by surprise and caused him to close distance unusually fast, and with the resulting lower downforce at the apex of the corner, he lost control and crashed at the exit of the corner. There was no contact between the cars.

Telemetry shows that Alonso lifted slightly more than 100m earlier than he ever had going into that corner during the race. He also braked very slightly at a point that he did not usually brake (although the amount of brake was so slight that it was not the main reason for his car slowing) and he downshifted at a point he never usually downshifted. He then upshifted again, and accelerated to the corner before lifting again to make the corner. Alonso explained that while his plan was to slow earlier, he got it slightly wrong and had to take extra steps to get back up to speed. Nonetheless, this manoeuvre created a considerable and unusual closing speed between the cars.

In considering the matter the stewards focused solely on the wording of the regulation which states “At no time may a car be driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically or in a The Stewards manner which could be deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person.” (Art 33.4)

Specifically, in this case, the stewards have not considered the consequences of the crash. Further, the stewards considered that they do not have sufficient information to determine whether Alonso’s manoeuvre was intended to cause Russell problems, or whether as he stated to the stewards that he simply was trying to get a better exit.

Should Alonso have the right to try a different approach to the corner? – yes.
Should Alonso be responsible for dirty air, that ultimately caused the incident? – no.

However, did he choose to do something, with whatever intent, that was extraordinary, ie lifting, braking, downshifting and all the other elements of the manoeuvre over 100m earlier than previously, and much greater than was needed to simply slow earlier for the corner? - yes by his own account of the incident he did, and in the opinion of the stewards by doing these things, he drove in a manner that was at very least “potentially dangerous” given the very high speed nature of that point of the track.

This season, the FIA Formula 1 penalty guidelines, including for this breach have been reset and increased to a baseline of a 10s penalty. In addition, when there is some aggravating circumstance, we consider a Drive Through Penalty. In this case we consider that Alonso affirmatively choosing to perform an unusual manoeuvre at this point to be an aggravating circumstance, as opposed to a simple mistake.
The stewards therefore order a drive through penalty, which will be converted to 20 seconds added to Car 14’s elapsed time, along with three penalty points.
Competitors are reminded that they have the right to appeal certain decisions of the Stewards, in accordance with Article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code and Chapter 4 of the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules, within the applicable time limits.

Decisions of the Stewards are taken independently of the FIA and are based solely on the relevant regulations, guidelines and evidence presented.
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...%20driving.pdf
Citera
2024-03-25, 15:35
  #34
Medlem
trickydicks avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Porryhatter
Race Highlights | 2024 Australian Grand Prix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z8sEadieXA

Alonso går från 6 till 8 på grund av Russells crash.

No / Driver: 14 - Fernando Alonso

Decision: Drive through penalty imposed after the Race. Converted to 20 seconds added to the
elapsed time in the race in accordance with Art. 54.3
3 penalty points (total of 3 for the 12 month period).

Reason: The Stewards heard from the driver of Car 63 (George Russell), the driver of Car 14
(Fernando Alonso), team representatives and reviewed positioning/marshalling system data, video, telemetry, team radio, in-car video evidence and telemetry supplied by both teams.

Car 63 crashed at the exit to turn 6 on lap 57. The stewards have extensively reviewed the situation that occurred prior to the crash.

Car 63 (George Russell) was following Car 14 (Fernando Alonso) approximately 0.5 seconds behind as the cars approached turn 6. Alonso explained to the stewards that he intended to approach turn 6 differently, lifting earlier, and with less speed into the corner, to get a better exit. Russell explained to the stewards that from his perspective, Alonso’s manoeuvre was erratic, took him by surprise and caused him to close distance unusually fast, and with the resulting lower downforce at the apex of the corner, he lost control and crashed at the exit of the corner. There was no contact between the cars.

Telemetry shows that Alonso lifted slightly more than 100m earlier than he ever had going into that corner during the race. He also braked very slightly at a point that he did not usually brake (although the amount of brake was so slight that it was not the main reason for his car slowing) and he downshifted at a point he never usually downshifted. He then upshifted again, and accelerated to the corner before lifting again to make the corner. Alonso explained that while his plan was to slow earlier, he got it slightly wrong and had to take extra steps to get back up to speed. Nonetheless, this manoeuvre created a considerable and unusual closing speed between the cars.

In considering the matter the stewards focused solely on the wording of the regulation which states “At no time may a car be driven unnecessarily slowly, erratically or in a The Stewards manner which could be deemed potentially dangerous to other drivers or any other person.” (Art 33.4)

Specifically, in this case, the stewards have not considered the consequences of the crash. Further, the stewards considered that they do not have sufficient information to determine whether Alonso’s manoeuvre was intended to cause Russell problems, or whether as he stated to the stewards that he simply was trying to get a better exit.

Should Alonso have the right to try a different approach to the corner? – yes.
Should Alonso be responsible for dirty air, that ultimately caused the incident? – no.

However, did he choose to do something, with whatever intent, that was extraordinary, ie lifting, braking, downshifting and all the other elements of the manoeuvre over 100m earlier than previously, and much greater than was needed to simply slow earlier for the corner? - yes by his own account of the incident he did, and in the opinion of the stewards by doing these things, he drove in a manner that was at very least “potentially dangerous” given the very high speed nature of that point of the track.

This season, the FIA Formula 1 penalty guidelines, including for this breach have been reset and increased to a baseline of a 10s penalty. In addition, when there is some aggravating circumstance, we consider a Drive Through Penalty. In this case we consider that Alonso affirmatively choosing to perform an unusual manoeuvre at this point to be an aggravating circumstance, as opposed to a simple mistake.
The stewards therefore order a drive through penalty, which will be converted to 20 seconds added to Car 14’s elapsed time, along with three penalty points.
Competitors are reminded that they have the right to appeal certain decisions of the Stewards, in accordance with Article 15 of the FIA International Sporting Code and Chapter 4 of the FIA Judicial and Disciplinary Rules, within the applicable time limits.

Decisions of the Stewards are taken independently of the FIA and are based solely on the relevant regulations, guidelines and evidence presented.
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi...%20driving.pdf

Men vad fan, det vara en racing incident.
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