2020-01-08, 18:17
  #5305
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lapons avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av FlashyBear
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"after destroying 100 percent of ISIS" - det vore mer Trumpiskt om han sagt 200%

Det här var ett så allvarligt läge att kanske t.o.m. Trump förstod
att han inte kan vara Trump fullt ut.

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2020-01-08, 18:18
  #5306
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av shakta
Förlåt, vet inte när du föddes men hört talas om teleprompter ?

Möjligt, men han tittade ju runt konstant mot reportrarna.

Skönt att han inte startade ett nytt krig åt Israel !
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2020-01-08, 18:19
  #5307
Medlem
FlashyBears avatar
International editor, @NewStatesman (han jobbade på The Economist innan dess).

https://twitter.com/JeremyCliffe/sta...58345490223104
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Jeremy Cliffe


Striking how much Trump's instincts on Europe & western Asia align with Macron's.

Not in every detail, but in the broad sweep: US pulling back, reset with Russia, Europeans doing more for security & in region (with terrorism & migration, not political reform, as top priorities).
Citat:
Their motives differ. Macron driven by mix of geopolitical realpolitik and quest for European sovereignty; Trump by ill-defined isolationism, admiration for strongmen and transactional outlook. But these motives bring them out in similar places on some of the big questions.

Japp. Därför gillar jag både Trump och Macron (Putin älskar man ju!).


Om den där om New Deal är inte skitsnack (troligen det är) är det Macron och Putin som borde fixa dealen.
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2020-01-08, 18:19
  #5308
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av lapon
Det här var ett så allvarligt läge att kanske t.o.m. Trump förstod
att han inte kan vara Trump fullt ut.

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Han var Trump 100% igår innan någon stackare förklara för honom att attacken inte var så allvarlig.


Röda knappen låg nära Trump då hehe
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2020-01-08, 18:21
  #5309
Medlem
Mr Bs avatar
Så blev det så, som de nyktra i tråden konstaterat i flertal inlägg, en fullständigt de-eskalering av konflikten, Trump och Iran har spelat schack bakom kulisserna.
USA plockar denna terrorist general av särskilda skäl och sen tillåter att Iran bombar mål utan några förluster, mycket likt hur Trump avfyrade missiler mot tom flygplats i Syrien. Det här var utstuderat och handlade om något helt annat än vad som visades inför massorna.

Intressanta delar av talet handlade om att Trump ägnar stor del åt att tala om hur Obama administrationen givit Iran pengar , som senare Soleimani och Iran använt för att finansiera terror inklusive missilerna som avfyrades. Sarah Huckabee twittrade igår om att Soleimani var Obamas ”bagman” för den pengar transaktionen.

Trump la vikt att påpeka att man strategiskt arbetar och gjort sig Olje-självständigt och att detta öppnat helt nya möjligheter i Mellanöstern, att USA inte längre behöver Mellanöstern , han gick vidare med att tala om att det är dags för NATO att kliva in , menar han att USA är påväg att kliva ur ?.

Det är för en annan tråd, hur som helst , det blir inget krig som var en klar slutsats för folk som inte lider av TDS , orange man bad hysteri eller oproportionerlig förkärlek till Iran.
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2020-01-08, 18:21
  #5310
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shaktas avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Macklin
Möjligt, men han tittade ju runt konstant mot reportrarna.

Skönt att han inte startade ett nytt krig åt Israel !

Hm , okay. Vänta här...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=teleprompters+trump&t=ffsb&atb=v1-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2 Fa.abcnews.com%2Fimages%2FPolitics%2FGTY_trump_tel eprompter_01_as_160608_4x3_992.jpg
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2020-01-08, 18:22
  #5311
Bannlyst
Är det game over nu eller kommer det mer?
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2020-01-08, 18:30
  #5312
Medlem
Alla i iraks regering sover med trosor. Näst högsta ledaren dödad dom svarar med fyrverkerier.
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2020-01-08, 18:33
  #5313
Medlem
Tubleross avatar
CNN är ju sjuka. De bönade och bad ju nästan Trump om att deskalera, nu sitter deras panel och klagar på Trump och tycker han är feg. Tillbaka till 24/7 Trump kritik..
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2020-01-08, 18:39
  #5314
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Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av FlashyBear
Trumps fredstal:
As long as I'm president of the United States, Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon. Good morning. I'm pleased to inform you the American people should be extremely grateful and happy. No Americans were harmed in last night's attack by the Iranian regime. We suffered no casualties. All of our soldiers are safe and only minimal damage was sustained at our military bases.

Our great American forces are prepared for anything. Iran appears to be standing down, which is a good thing for all parties concerned and a very good thing for the world. No American or Iraqi lives were lost because of the precautions taken, the dispersal of forces and an early warning system that worked very well. I salute the incredible skill and courage of America's men and women in uniform.

For far too long, all the way back to 1979, to be exact, nations have tolerated Iran's destructive and destabilizing behavior in the Middle East and beyond. Those days are over. Iran has been the leading sponsor of terrorism, and their pursuit of nuclear weapons threatens the civilized world. We will never let that happen.

Last week, we took decisive action to stop a ruthless terrorist from threatening American lives. At my direction, the United States military eliminated the world's top terrorist, Qasem Soleimani. As the head of the Quds Force Soleimani was personally responsible for some of the absolutely worst atrocities. He trained terrorist armies, including Hezbollah, launching terrorist strikes against civilian targets. He fueled bloody civil wars all across the region. He viciously wounded and murdered thousands of U.S. troops, including the planting of roadside bombs that maim and dismember their victims. Soleimani directed the recent attacks on U.S. personnel in Iraq that badly wounded four service members and killed one American. And he orchestrated the violent assault on the U.S. embassy in Baghdad. In recent days, he was planning new attacks on American targets. But we stopped him. Soleimani’s hands were drenched in both American and Iranian blood. He should have been terminated long ago. By removing Soleimani, we have sent a powerful message to terrorists: If you value your own life, you will not threaten the lives of our people.

As we continue to evaluate options in response to Iranian aggression, the United States will immediately impose additional punishing economic sanctions on the Iranian regime. These powerful sanctions will remain until Iran changes its behavior. In recent months alone, Iran has seized ships in international waters, fired an unprovoked strike on Saudi Arabia and shot down two U.S. drones. Iran's hostilities substantially increased after the foolish Iran nuclear deal was signed in 2013, and they were given 150 billion dollars, not to mention 1.8 billion in cash. Instead of saying thank you to the United States, they chanted “Death to America.” In fact, they chanted “Death to America” the day the agreement was signed. Then Iran went on a terror spree funded by the money from the deal and created hell in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan and Iraq. The missiles fired last night at us and our allies were paid for with the funds made available by the last administration. The regime also greatly tightened the reins on their own country. Even recently, killing 1,500 people at the many protests that are taking place all throughout Iran.

The very defective JCPOA expires shortly anyway and gives Iran a clear and quick path to nuclear breakout. Iran must abandon its nuclear ambitions and end its support for terrorism. The time has come for the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Russia and China to recognize this reality. They must now break away from the remnants of the Iran deal or JCPOA. And we must all work together toward making a deal with Iran that makes the world a safer and more peaceful place. We must also make a deal that allows Iran to thrive and prosper and take advantage of its enormous untapped potential. Iran can be a great country. Peace and stability cannot prevail in the Middle East as long as Iran continues to foment violence, unrest, hatred and war. The civilized world must send a clear and unified message to the Iranian regime: Your campaign of terror, murder, mayhem will not be tolerated any longer. It will not be allowed to go forward.

Today, I am going to ask NATO to become much more involved in the Middle East process. Over the last three years under my leadership, our economy is stronger than ever before, and America's achieved energy independence. These historic accomplishments shades our strategic priorities -- these are accomplishments that nobody thought were possible -- and options in the Middle East became available. We are now the number one producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world. We are independent and we do not need Middle East oil. The American military has been completely rebuilt under my administration, at a cost of 2.5 trillion dollars. U.S. armed forces are stronger than ever before. Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal and fast. Under construction are many many hypersonic missiles. The fact that we have this great military and equipment, however, does not mean we have to use it. We do not want to use it. American strength, both military and economic, is the best deterrent.

Three months ago, after destroying 100 percent of ISIS and its territorial caliphate, we killed the savage leader of ISIS, al-Baghdadi, who was responsible for so much death, including the mass beheadings of Christians, Muslims and all who stood in his way. He was a monster. Al-Baghdadi was trying again to rebuild the ISIS caliphate and failed. Tens of thousands of ISIS fighters have been killed or captured during my administration. ISIS is a natural enemy of Iran. The destruction of ISIS is good for Iran. And we should work together on this and other shared priorities.

Finally, to the people and leaders of Iran: We want you to have a future and a great future, one that you deserve, one of prosperity at home in harmony with the nations of the world. The United States is ready to embrace peace with all who seek it. I want to thank you and God bless America. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

"after destroying 100 percent of ISIS" - det vore mer Trumpiskt om han sagt 200%

Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av shakta
Sa inte han att Citat "He's Kept More Promises Than He's Made"

Jag lyssnade inte så noga men om det stämmer så har du dina 200% Flashy
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2020-01-08, 18:39
  #5315
Medlem
arbetets avatar
Lite skumt det här. Såg en sak på Twitter som en Twittrare vid namn Jack Khoury hade postat något om att 224 US-soldater hade fraktats till Tel Aviv för sjukhusvård efter attacken i natt. Det var en skärmdump men det gick att se vem Twittraren var. Men kontot var tillfälligt avstängt:

https://twitter.com/khjacki_en
Gammal cache här: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Gick därför vidare och såg att personen faktiskt finns och att han är reporter bl.a. på Haaretz:

https://www.haaretz.com/misc/writers/WRITER-1.4968351

Vad som sas i skärmdumpen hittar ni här:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENxLTNuU...jpg&name=small

Och kortfattat Twittrades detta:
According to reports received by Haarets, a US aircraft carrying American soldiers wounded by Iran's missile strike on Ain Assad Air Base, landed in Tel Aviv hours ago. Based on informed sources 224 injured soldiers were taken to Tal Aviv Sourasky Medical Center Hospital.

Hospital CEO Ronni Gamzu reassured US DoD that medical staff will attend to American soldiers as best as they can.
Ja, ni får ta det för vad det är men skumt är det.

Originaltweeten:

https://twitter.com/waquar_haidry/st...763572224?s=20

OBS OVANSTÅENDE ÄR FAKE

Jacki Khoury
@KhJacki
הופץ מידע כוזב בחשבון מזויף הנושא את שמי באנגלית בעניין חיילים אמריקריים פצועים. מבהיר שוב שמדובר בחשבון מזויף ואין לי חשבון כזה ולא הפצתי מידע כזה.

A fake account impersonating me was pushing fake news with my name on it. It has been suspended from
https://twitter.com/KhJacki/status/1...353067521?s=20

Sorry!
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2020-01-08, 18:44
  #5316
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av arbetet
Lite skumt det här. Såg en sak på Twitter som en Twittrare vid namn Jack Khoury hade postat något om att 224 US-soldater hade fraktats till Tel Aviv för sjukhusvård efter attacken i natt. Det var en skärmdump men det gick att se vem Twittraren var. Men kontot var tillfälligt avstängt:

https://twitter.com/khjacki_en
Gammal cache här: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Gick därför vidare och såg att personen faktiskt finns och att han är reporter bl.a. på Haaretz:

https://www.haaretz.com/misc/writers/WRITER-1.4968351

Vad som sas i skärmdumpen hittar ni här:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENxLTNuU...jpg&name=small

Och kortfattat Twittrades detta:
According to reports received by Haarets, a US aircraft carrying American soldiers wounded by Iran's missile strike on Ain Assad Air Base, landed in Tel Aviv hours ago. Based on informed sources 224 injured soldiers were taken to Tal Aviv Sourasky Medical Center Hospital.

Hospital CEO Ronni Gamzu reassured US DoD that medical staff will attend to American soldiers as best as they can.
Ja, ni får ta det för vad det är men skumt är det.

Originaltweeten:

https://twitter.com/waquar_haidry/st...763572224?s=20
Åh satan vilket stort flygplan du skall ha för att få in 224 skadade personer.
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