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Är du säker på att även de nyare laddar via elmotorn? Vet att länder med TN-nät behövde en speciell box för att fungera tillsammans med jordningen i nätet när man skulle ladda de gamla modellerna, samt att den klumpiga omformningen kunde leda till störningar i elnätet. Är ganska säker på att renault kröp till korset och byggde en komplett OBC när bilen uppdaterades?
Sedan hade väl de gamla bilarna stöd för 43kw ac också, och en del av de gamla trippelladdarna hade väl just 43kw på AC kabeln, till samma minutpris som de snabbare formaten dock. Har sett några stackars e-golfar och liknande saktaladda på AC-kabeln istället för ccs, till snabbladdningskostnad på dessa laddstationer.
Sedan hade väl de gamla bilarna stöd för 43kw ac också, och en del av de gamla trippelladdarna hade väl just 43kw på AC kabeln, till samma minutpris som de snabbare formaten dock. Har sett några stackars e-golfar och liknande saktaladda på AC-kabeln istället för ccs, till snabbladdningskostnad på dessa laddstationer.
I videon vid 16 minuter får han ett fel när han ska ladda AC.
"Earth Isolation not Appropriate"
I kommentarerna till videon skriver besserwisser från Litauen dock förljande:
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100 Percent Electric
för 4 dagar sedan
Dear Jonny. I really like what you're doing on the channel, including your work on fully charged, but I'm surprised to watch this video and realize that this time either you were not prepared enough, or you've got some mismatching information from the dealer... However, if you really drove this car for 6 months I'm surprised you still claim these things:
1. Renault are using Renault (R) or Continental (Q) motors in ZOE. For example, Q210 or Q90 are made by continental, while R240 and R90 are made by Renault. So, R135 - the car you're reviewing is using Renault motor, not Continental and this is why your claim about french car using german motor in this case is incorrect. BTW - continental motors were the ones giving the ZOE up to 43 kW of AC charging power, which is not anymore available with the facelift and latest battery upgrade.
2. You're claiming a "brilliant" fast charge capabilities, while first search on google with a charging curve from Fastned reveals that the charging peaks at 46 kW and tips off pretty fast. So, even Leaf from 2011 can do better. Yes, e-Up with larger battery is also doing pretty shitty charging job, but it's a significantly cheaper car. Peugeot 208 or Opel /Vauxhall Corsa-e can get up to 100 kW with a smaller battery. So, claim of "brilliance" in charging is also incorrect.
3. Claim about "brilliantly efficiency"... Hyundai Ioniq and VW e-Golf are larger and heavier, while they are more efficient. VW e-up is even more efficient. Yes, Peugeot 208 or any Stellantis cars are not efficient, but ZOE is also among them, not among the top efficient cars, even larger ones...
So, there are some thing in this video which annoyed me as the one who test a lot of EV's in the real life. And I was expecting you to dig a little deeper and have a bit more refined noted in your notebook. Because a lot of viewers are watching and believing you. And they might struggle to understand why their car is not "brilliantly" efficient or "brilliantly" charging or indeed has a german motor inside
Looking forward to more correct reviews in the future, as I really believe you can do much better than this
Dainius
EV enthusiast
www.100ProcentuElektrinis.lt
för 4 dagar sedan
Dear Jonny. I really like what you're doing on the channel, including your work on fully charged, but I'm surprised to watch this video and realize that this time either you were not prepared enough, or you've got some mismatching information from the dealer... However, if you really drove this car for 6 months I'm surprised you still claim these things:
1. Renault are using Renault (R) or Continental (Q) motors in ZOE. For example, Q210 or Q90 are made by continental, while R240 and R90 are made by Renault. So, R135 - the car you're reviewing is using Renault motor, not Continental and this is why your claim about french car using german motor in this case is incorrect. BTW - continental motors were the ones giving the ZOE up to 43 kW of AC charging power, which is not anymore available with the facelift and latest battery upgrade.
2. You're claiming a "brilliant" fast charge capabilities, while first search on google with a charging curve from Fastned reveals that the charging peaks at 46 kW and tips off pretty fast. So, even Leaf from 2011 can do better. Yes, e-Up with larger battery is also doing pretty shitty charging job, but it's a significantly cheaper car. Peugeot 208 or Opel /Vauxhall Corsa-e can get up to 100 kW with a smaller battery. So, claim of "brilliance" in charging is also incorrect.
3. Claim about "brilliantly efficiency"... Hyundai Ioniq and VW e-Golf are larger and heavier, while they are more efficient. VW e-up is even more efficient. Yes, Peugeot 208 or any Stellantis cars are not efficient, but ZOE is also among them, not among the top efficient cars, even larger ones...
So, there are some thing in this video which annoyed me as the one who test a lot of EV's in the real life. And I was expecting you to dig a little deeper and have a bit more refined noted in your notebook. Because a lot of viewers are watching and believing you. And they might struggle to understand why their car is not "brilliantly" efficient or "brilliantly" charging or indeed has a german motor inside
Looking forward to more correct reviews in the future, as I really believe you can do much better than this
Dainius
EV enthusiast
www.100ProcentuElektrinis.lt
Enligt messersmith BAB7 så är Q90 från Renault vilket då inte stämmer med definitionen som litauern skriver.
Frågan är om både R och Q modeller har Chameleon laddare.
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Q90 - 90 hk, egenutvecklad Renaultmotor. Tillverkningsperiod 2017-2019.
R90 - 90 hk, egenutvecklad Renaultmotor. Tillverkningsperiod 2017-2019.
R90 - 90 hk, egenutvecklad Renaultmotor. Tillverkningsperiod 2017-2019.
R90:
Total Power 68 kW (92 PS)
Vehicle Consumption 161 Wh/km
https://ev-database.org/car/1077/Renault-Zoe-R90
Q90:
Total Power 65 kW (88 PS)
Vehicle Consumption 167 Wh/km
https://ev-database.org/car/1078/Renault-Zoe-Q90
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