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2002-05-18, 16:05
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Medlem
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The Boston Globe

OUT FROM THE SHADOWS OF 'GREAT' MEN
Author By Ellen Goodman, Globe Staff

Date Thursday, March 15, 1990
Page 15
Section OP-ED PAGE

When I first heard about Einstein's wife, the story sounded like a parody of feminist studies. A coven of historians searching through the archives come to a dark conclusion. It wasn't Einstein who discovered relativity. IT WAS HIS WIFE!

Mileva Maric, fellow student and first wife of the famed Albert, is starring in one of the hottest controversies to hit the dry, footnoted world of historians and scientists. Ever since the American Association for the Advancement of Science held a panel on the subject last month there have been letters, counter-letters and counter-counter-letters. People have taken sides as if the Einsteins were Donald and Ivana.

Speaking for Mileva are Evan Harris Walker and Senta Troemel-Ploetz. Walker, a physicist, contends that the basic ideas for relativity came from Mileva. Troemel-Ploetz, a German linguist, says that the ideas may have been Albert's, but Mileva did the math.

Speaking for Albert are some irate Einstein scholars. John Stachel, keeper of Albert's letters, says that Mileva was little more than a sounding board.

Of course, the Albert and Mileva Affair has its own place in history. In 1929, Virginia Woolf began the famed "A Room of Her Own" by asking what chance a sister of Shakespeare would have had to become a great playwright. Over the past decade, scholars have studied the lives of great men's wives.

Women from A to Z -- or from Anonymous to Zelda (Fitzgerald) -- have been reclaimed. Some of Zelda's best writing was found between Scott's pages. Clara was discovered to be a Schumann in her own right, not just Robert's. Camille Claudel emerged as more than a marble block in Rodin's way.

Mileva Maric Einstein, described in a popular biography as the "gloomy, laconic and distrustful" Serbian peasant, was due for a comeback. It turns out she was one of the rare women admitted to the Polytechnical Institute in Zurich in 1896.

But the case for her as co-genius is shaky. It depends on letters in which Albert referred to "our" theory and "our" work. It hinges on reports of his mathematical weakness and her strength. And rests on a divorce agreement in which Albert promised her his Nobel Prize money. That's not enough to change the credit line on the theory of relativity.

The tragedy of Mileva's life is real enough. But it's of a more personal and a common dimension. It's a parable of two young people who begin life as intellectual soulmates. "How happy I am to have found in you an equal creature who is equally strong and independent as I am," wrote Albert. But somewhere along the way, life and love had an unequal effect in their lives as man and woman, and as scientists.

It's possible to read between the outlines. Pregnant and unmarried, Mileva flunked her final exam. Their first child was born out of wedlock and presumably adopted. By the time their second and third were born, Mileva had become wife, caretaker and often supporter of the family. Her scientific work stopped, his soared. Finally, the famous Albert left her for another woman and Mileva spent the rest of her life struggling to support herself and her children, including a psychotic son.

There is something familiar about this tale of the two Einsteins. It's aroused such passion it also strikes a current chord. The scientist, pacifist, humanist was also the product of a time when women's lives and talents were submerged as routinely as their last names in marriage.

We can round up generations of wives before and after Mileva whose star faded or was eclipsed, who went from scholar and co-author to typist to a name on her husband's dedication page or his obit or nothing. Few women marry geniuses, but many have spent their lives in the shadow of "great" men.

Today when couples are struggling to be equals not just at the beginning of their marriage but for life, the young Einsteins raise questions for more than the history buffs. Their story touches those who want marriages of mutual caretaking and individual achievement and wonder if it's possible.

What happens, furthermore, in our own world to those who become caretakers? There is more than a little fear that they'll be left behind . . . or left. And what do we think of the well-cared-for achievers. Are they ''greats" or tainted exploiters?

We judge our own lives by these standards and often rejudge the lives of others. "We've had the myth of Einstein as a saintly figure," says Dr. Stachel. "Now we're getting Einstein as the demonic figure." We had the myth of the wife as a nobody. Now we are offered the "myth" of the wife as martyr.

When Einstein died, his brain inspired such awe that it was removed for study. But modern standards add another dimension to his biography. In his personal life, Albert was no Einstein.
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2002-05-18, 17:29
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Medlem
Skert... :roll:
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2002-05-18, 18:46
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Medlem
Ja, Albert Einstein var i sjlva verket bara en frtryckande taliban. Att han sen fortsatte att bidra till fysikens utveckling i flera decennier efter skilsmssan frn Mileva r bara en bekrftelse p hur subtil den strukturella kapitalist-judisk-patriarkaliska maktkonspirationen r.
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2002-05-18, 20:15
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Medlem
Men ni har ju inte ens lst artikeln, ven om ni hade lst den s har det inte hjlpt drfr att ni r frblindade judefanatiker. Patetiska svar frn patetiska personer.
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2002-05-19, 01:28
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Medlem
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Lste du inte vad rhizoid skrev?

Vi tar det igen...

"Att han sen fortsatte att bidra till fysikens utveckling i flera decennier efter skilsmssan frn Mileva....."

Fattar du nu?
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2002-05-19, 02:04
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Medlem
8)Vartenda av stefans inlgg p flashbackforumet handlar om hans judehat. Kan tnka mig att han inte har rd att g till psykologen!
Har det ngonstans att Einstein frtryckte sin fru, om jag inte misstar mig. S Rhizoid skrev om Talibanfrtryckare utan att vara aldeles bakom fltet. Mycket subtilt ironiskt m jag sga....
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2002-05-19, 08:36
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Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Stefan
Men ni har ju inte ens lst artikeln, ven om ni hade lst den s har det inte hjlpt drfr att ni r frblindade judefanatiker. Patetiska svar frn patetiska personer.
Stefan, slr det dig inte nn gng att det kanske finns en orsak till att 99% av alla inte hller med dig?
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2002-05-19, 13:01
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Medlem
Patetiska scepter, du lever i din fantasivrld och fortstt med det. spider ghost fortstt med heroinet, ta helst en verdos. Och s securion ja men inte fan kan du lsa isfall skulle du ha sett att det i artikeln TYDLIGT framkommer att alla dom stora upptckterna som relativitetsteorin var hans frus verk och inte einsteins.
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2002-05-19, 13:49
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Medlem
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Kan jag inte lsa? Tycke du inte sjlv att det var ett otroligt korkat phopp p ett textbaserat forum?

S du menar att Einsteins fru brevvgen informerade sin ex make angende fysikens lagar? Eller trffades dom d och d s att hon kunde utbilda sin ex make om sina senaste rn? Varfr d?
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2002-05-19, 14:11
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Medlem
Jag tycker det verkar vara Stefan som har lssvrigheter.
Citat:
But the case for her as co-genius is shaky. It depends on letters in which Albert referred to "our" theory and "our" work. It hinges on reports of his mathematical weakness and her strength. And rests on a divorce agreement in which Albert promised her his Nobel Prize money. That's not enough to change the credit line on the theory of relativity.
Allts, grunden fr att tillskriva Mileva ran av relativitetsteorin, r mycket svag.
Citat:
The tragedy of Mileva's life is real enough. But it's of a more personal and a common dimension. It's a parable of two young people who begin life as intellectual soulmates. "How happy I am to have found in you an equal creature who is equally strong and independent as I am," wrote Albert. But somewhere along the way, life and love had an unequal effect in their lives as man and woman, and as scientists.
Dremot kan Mileva skert ha varit duktig, och kanske pga kvinnodiskriminering hllits tillbaka och inte ftt utveckla sina talanger fullt ut. Det r naturligtvis synd, men det r inget unikt problem fr familjen Einstein, och det bevisar inte p ngot vis att Mileva skulle ha kommit fram till relativitetsteorin.
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2002-05-19, 15:34
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Medlem
8) Hej Stefan, eftersom du frmodar att jag horsar, s kan vi vl tillsammans ta en tripp p Heroin/LSD och flyga mjukt ner till Israel/Palestina och dr f vra egna sanslsa upplevelser av konflikten!
Sist jag var dr nere och flg, trffade jag terrorist bombade judar som ville ha tag p en judehatare vid namn Stefan uppe i Sweden. Det var ngra huvuden som pratade med mig och deras lemlstade kroppar dansade religis Talmud i en Voodoo doftande ilska. De ville ven ha tag p IDF och lta honom leka sadistiska sexlekar med palestinska terrorister. 8O
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2002-05-19, 15:54
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Medlem
"It's possible to read between the outlines. Pregnant and unmarried, Mileva flunked her final exam. Their first child was born out of wedlock and presumably adopted. By the time their second and third were born, Mileva had become wife, caretaker and often supporter of the family. Her scientific work stopped, his soared. Finally, the famous Albert left her for another woman and Mileva spent the rest of her life struggling to support herself and her children, including a psychotic son."
It's possible to read between the outlines. Pregnant and unmarried, Mileva flunked her final exam. Their first child was born out of wedlock and presumably adopted. By the time their second and third were born, Mileva had become wife, caretaker and often supporter of the family. Her scientific work stopped, his soared. Finally, the famous Albert left her for another woman and Mileva spent the rest of her life struggling to support herself and her children, including a psychotic son.
It's possible to read between the outlines. Pregnant and unmarried, Mileva flunked her final exam. Their first child was born out of wedlock and presumably adopted. By the time their second and third were born, Mileva had become wife, caretaker and often supporter of the family. Her scientific work stopped, his soared. Finally, the famous Albert left her for another woman and Mileva spent the rest of her life struggling to support herself and her children, including a psychotic son."
Vilket as einstein visade att han r, ingen som helst hjlp.

"When Einstein died, his brain inspired such awe that it was removed for study. But modern standards add another dimension to his biography. In his personal life, Albert was no Einstein."
En skithg!

"Speaking for Mileva are Evan Harris Walker and Senta Troemel-Ploetz. Walker, a physicist, contends that the basic ideas for relativity came from Mileva. Troemel-Ploetz, a German linguist, says that the ideas may have been Albert's, but Mileva did the math."
Det hr securion ditt missfoster hade du inte tagit med, jvla jude/sympatisr krk!
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