2005-08-16, 14:24
#1
jag håller just nu på och läser en bok av david sklansky och skulle behöva få vissa stycken översatta och förklarade för mig. har även lite funderingar som jag skulle behöva få svar på.
1. "...On the other hand, when you have the blind in hold em, for example, you can and should play a little looser, not because that blind is yours, but because you're getting better pot odds. a single example should make this clear. let's say you have 5 dollars blind in hold em, and someone behind you raises it to 10 dollars. it now costs everyone else to call 10 dollars to call, but when it comes back around to you, it costs you only 5 dollars. if the pot grows to 35 dollars, someone calling the 10 dollars would be getting 3½-to-1, but since it's only 5 dollars to you, your getting 7-to-1 for your money."
hur får man fram att jag har 7-to-1 for my money? och vad innebär det exakt?
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2. "as the antes go up, your opponents reduce their playing requirements, and unless you want to be eaten up by the antes, you too must reduce your playing requirements. these lower requirements continue to the next round of betting and progress right on to the end of the hand."
vad menas med "playing requirements"?
och vad menar han med hela meningen: "these lower requirements continue to the next round of betting and progress right on to the end of the hand."
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3. "as the ante increases, you loosen up on later rounds too, because initial weaker requirements carry over into later rounds. however, in multi-way pots, hands like mediocre pairs decrease in value while drawing cards increase in value."
vad menas med: "beacause initial weaker requirements carry over into later rounds"?
och hur kommer det sig att mediokra par minskar i värde i multi-way pots? hur räknade han ut det?
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4. "pot odds are the odds the pot is giving you for calling a bet. if there is 50 dollars in the pot and the final bet was 10 dollars, you are getting 5-to-1 odds for your call. it is essential to know pot odds to figure out expectation. in the example just given, if you figure your chances of winning are better than 5-to-1, then it is correct to call. if you think your chances are worse than 5-to-1, you should fold."
varför ska jag syna om jag har 5-to-1 odds (20% eller bättre)?. finns det någon sorts tumregel som säger att allt över 20% är värt att syna på?
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5. ".the smaller the pot odds vis-a-vis the chances of making your hand, the more reason you have to fold. with only 30 dollars in the pot instead of 50 dollars, calling a 10 dollar bet for a flush draw or straight draw becomes incorrect - that is, it becomes a wager with negative expectation - unless the implied odds are very large, as they might be in a no-limit or pot-limit game. it is because of the pot odds that people say you need at least three other players in the pot to make it worth playing to draw to a flush in draw poker. with the antes in there the pot odds are about 4-to-1. notice, incidentally, the effect of the antes. the higher they are, the better the pot odds, and the easier it is to call with a flush draw. on the other hand, with no ante and three other players in the pot, youd be getting only 3-to-1 if you called a bet before the draw, and sou you'd have to fold a four flush".
varför blir det en insats med negative expectation om det är 30 dollar istället för 50? jag förstår principen. men får inte ihop det i huvudet riktigt. man satsar ju 10 för att vinna 30. hur kan det vara dåligt?
och:
varför ska man lägga sig?
3-to-1 är väl bättre än 4-to-1?
1. "...On the other hand, when you have the blind in hold em, for example, you can and should play a little looser, not because that blind is yours, but because you're getting better pot odds. a single example should make this clear. let's say you have 5 dollars blind in hold em, and someone behind you raises it to 10 dollars. it now costs everyone else to call 10 dollars to call, but when it comes back around to you, it costs you only 5 dollars. if the pot grows to 35 dollars, someone calling the 10 dollars would be getting 3½-to-1, but since it's only 5 dollars to you, your getting 7-to-1 for your money."
hur får man fram att jag har 7-to-1 for my money? och vad innebär det exakt?
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2. "as the antes go up, your opponents reduce their playing requirements, and unless you want to be eaten up by the antes, you too must reduce your playing requirements. these lower requirements continue to the next round of betting and progress right on to the end of the hand."
vad menas med "playing requirements"?
och vad menar han med hela meningen: "these lower requirements continue to the next round of betting and progress right on to the end of the hand."
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3. "as the ante increases, you loosen up on later rounds too, because initial weaker requirements carry over into later rounds. however, in multi-way pots, hands like mediocre pairs decrease in value while drawing cards increase in value."
vad menas med: "beacause initial weaker requirements carry over into later rounds"?
och hur kommer det sig att mediokra par minskar i värde i multi-way pots? hur räknade han ut det?
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4. "pot odds are the odds the pot is giving you for calling a bet. if there is 50 dollars in the pot and the final bet was 10 dollars, you are getting 5-to-1 odds for your call. it is essential to know pot odds to figure out expectation. in the example just given, if you figure your chances of winning are better than 5-to-1, then it is correct to call. if you think your chances are worse than 5-to-1, you should fold."
varför ska jag syna om jag har 5-to-1 odds (20% eller bättre)?. finns det någon sorts tumregel som säger att allt över 20% är värt att syna på?
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5. ".the smaller the pot odds vis-a-vis the chances of making your hand, the more reason you have to fold. with only 30 dollars in the pot instead of 50 dollars, calling a 10 dollar bet for a flush draw or straight draw becomes incorrect - that is, it becomes a wager with negative expectation - unless the implied odds are very large, as they might be in a no-limit or pot-limit game. it is because of the pot odds that people say you need at least three other players in the pot to make it worth playing to draw to a flush in draw poker. with the antes in there the pot odds are about 4-to-1. notice, incidentally, the effect of the antes. the higher they are, the better the pot odds, and the easier it is to call with a flush draw. on the other hand, with no ante and three other players in the pot, youd be getting only 3-to-1 if you called a bet before the draw, and sou you'd have to fold a four flush".
varför blir det en insats med negative expectation om det är 30 dollar istället för 50? jag förstår principen. men får inte ihop det i huvudet riktigt. man satsar ju 10 för att vinna 30. hur kan det vara dåligt?
och:
varför ska man lägga sig?
3-to-1 är väl bättre än 4-to-1?