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2019-06-18, 23:50
  #1
Medlem
För någon vecka sedan kom det. Brevet heter “MALE AND FEMALE HE CREATED THEM” TOWARDS A PATH OF DIALOGUE ON THE QUESTION OF GENDER THEORY IN EDUCATION.
https://zenit.org/articles/new-vatican-document-provides-schools-with-guidance-on-gender-issues/ och är utgiven av Congregation for Catholic Education. Modigt måste jag säga.

I dokumentet konstateras det att:
1. [...] The disorientation regarding anthropology which is a widespread feature of our cultural landscape has undoubtedly helped to destabilise the family as an institution, bringing with it a tendency to cancel out the differences between men and women, presenting them instead as merely the product of historical and cultural conditioning.


2. The context in which the mission of education is carried out is characterized by challenges emerging from varying forms of an ideology that is given the general name ‘gender theory’, which “denies the difference and reciprocity in nature of a man and a woman and envisages a society without sexual differences, thereby eliminating the anthropological basis of the family. This ideology leads to educational programmes and legislative enactments that promote a personal identity and emotional intimacy radically separated from the biological difference between male and female. Consequently, human identity becomes the choice of the individual, one which can also change over time”


4. The Christian vision of anthropology sees sexuality as a fundamental component of one’s personhood. It is one of its mode of being, of manifesting itself, communicating with others, and of feeling, expressing and living human love. Therefore, our sexuality plays an integral part in the development of our personality and in the process of its education: “In fact, it is from [their] sex that the human person receives the characteristics which, on the biological, psychological and spiritual levels, make that person a man or a woman, and thereby largely condition his or her progress towards maturity and insertion into society”.6 As each person grows, “such diversity, linked to the complementarity of the two sexes, allows a thorough response to the design of God according to the vocation to which each one is called”.7 In the light of this, “affective-sex education must consider the totality of the person and insist therefore on the integration of the biological, psycho-affective, social and spiritual elements”.8

6. If we wish to take an approach to the question of gender theory that is based on the path of dialogue, it is vital to bear in mind the distinction between the ideology of gender on the one hand, and the whole field of research on gender that the human sciences have undertaken, on the other.
Och några fler intressanta punkter konstaterar de vad genus-ideologin går ut på:
12. In a growing contraposition between nature and culture, the propositions of gender theory converge in the concept of ‘queer’, which refers to dimensions of sexuality that are extremely fluid, flexible, and as it were, nomadic. This culminates in the assertion of the complete emancipation of the individual from any a priori given sexual definition, and the disappearance of classifications seen as overly rigid. This would create a new range of nuances that vary in degree and intensity according to both sexual orientation and the gender one has identified oneself with.


13. The duality in male-female couples is furthermore seen as in conflicting with the idea of “polyamory”, that is relationships involving more than two individuals. Because of this, it is claimed that the duration of relationships, as well as their binding nature, should be flexible, depending on the shifting desires of the individuals concerned. Naturally, this has consequences for the sharing of the responsibilities and obligations


Punkt 15 och 16 säger att KK är i princip överens med genusfolket om vikten av omsesidig förståelse, undervisning i ämnet och att bekämpa diskriminering pga. av kön eller "genus"-identitet.

Punkterna 20 till 23 gräver djupare i genusideologins filosofiska rötter och identifierar ett dualistisk antopologi där kroppen är helt isär viljan. Sedan identifieras det ett förnekande av det manligas och kvinligas komplementering samt en könstlöst/neutral/kastrerad utopi som mål.

21. In practice, the advocacy for the different identities often presents
them as being of completely equal value compared to each other. This, however, actually negates the relevance of each one. This has particular importance for the question of sexual difference. In fact, the generic concept of “non-discrimination” often hides an ideology that denies the difference as well as natural reciprocity that exists between men and women. “Instead of combatting wrongful interpretations of sexual difference that would diminish the fundamental importance of that difference for human dignity, such a proposal would simply eliminate it by proposing procedures and practices that make it irrelevant for a person’s development and for human relationships.But the utopia of the ‘neuter’ eliminates both human dignity in sexual distinctiveness and the personal nature of the generation of new life”.18 The anthropological basis of the concept of family is thus emptied of meaning.

22. This ideology inspires educational programmes and legislative trends that promote ideas of personal identity and affective intimacy that make a radical break with the actual biological difference between male and female. Human identity is consigned to the individual’s choice, which can also change in time. These ideas are the expression of a widespread way of thinking and acting in today’s culture that confuses “genuine freedom with the idea that each individual can act arbitrarily as if there were no truths, values and principles to provide guidance, and everything were possible and permissible”.19
23. The Second Vatican Council, wishing to express the Church’s view
of the human person, stated that “though made of body and soul, man is one. Through his bodily composition he gathers to himself the elements of the material world; thus they reach their crown through him, and through him raise their voice in free praise of the Creator”.20 Because of this dignity, “man is not wrong when he regards himself as superior to bodily concerns, and as more than a speck of nature or a nameless constituent of the city of man”.21 Therefore, “the expressions ‘the order of nature’ and ‘the order of biology’ must not be confused or regarded as identical, the ‘biological order’ does indeed mean the same as the order of nature but only in so far as this is accessible to methods of empirical and descriptive natural science, and not as a specific order of existence, with an obvious relationship to the First Cause, to God the Creator God”.22


Läs i länken ovan om ni vill få tillgång till hela dokumentet.

Frågor:
  • I. Håller ni med KK här? Varför, varför inte?
  • II. Blir den här dokumentet statskottet för bredare en kamp för tvätta bort genustramset i Västvärlden?
  • III. Kommer genusfolket ta åt sig kritiken?
  • IV. Kommer det bli en hatstorm mot KK då man vågar stå mot genustrenden?
Citera
2019-06-19, 08:05
  #2
Medlem
Rad-i-Kalles avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av Mongoprofeten
Det var på tiden. Fast detta kommer inte att spela någon roll när det gäller Sverige. Har kan det bara bli värre. Kön kommer att förbjudas i Sverige framöver, och alla kommer att klassas som "hen". Jag skulle i alla fall inte bli förvånad, om det slutar på det sättet.
Jo, risken är att detta enbart triggar Sverige. Nu kommer detta inte få nån större uppmärksamhet här mer än en mindre notis eller ett omnämnande i förbifarten. Tongången kommer dock att vara nedvärderande eller som ett konstaterande av Sveriges förträfflighet och katolicismens unkenhet.
Citera
2019-06-19, 10:00
  #3
Medlem
EasyClapss avatar
Troligtvis kommer de ändra på spelreglerna gällande man-kvinna och genus då nuvarande taktik är alldeles för avskräckande när det kommer till att knäcka den muslimska kärnfamiljen. Den (f.d.) ’kristna’ befolkningen är redan helt splittrad när det kommer till ’kärnfamilj’. Hur många vågar ens nämna det ordet på allmän plats?

I allt elände får vi ge vänstern ett MVG+ för det som de har gjort, de lyckades tyvärr otroligt bra med det uppdraget de fick. Till och med Påvedömet bör blivit förvånade hur långt vänstern har dragit detta.

Eller så är det bara ett generationsskifte på gång, det är inte ofta de vill stöpa närliggande generationer i samma form.. det enar ju faktiskt samhället.
Citera
2019-06-19, 10:09
  #4
Medlem
L.D.V.Ss avatar
Det är ingen enkel kamp de tar upp. Vi vet ju att satan verkar i den här världen.
Citera
2019-06-19, 10:24
  #5
Medlem
tjockballes avatar
Den nuvarande påven är så bortgjord bland katoliker i världen att det här nog får ses som ett försök att rädda lite anseende. Han kallas "kommunistpåven" bakom sin rygg. I USA fanns tidigare uttrycket "Is the pope Catholic?" som ett sätt att säga att något är självklart. Numera är det inte ett dugg självklart att den här påven är katolik. Frågan är om han är kristen över huvud taget?

Spana in vad han sitter mitt i. Djävulens egen lilla hjälpreda.

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/catholics-what-is-this-demonic-looking-sculpture-behind-the-pope.2203715/
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2019-06-19, 10:43
  #6
Medlem
EasyClapss avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av tjockballe
Numera är det inte ett dugg självklart att den här påven är katolik. Frågan är om han är kristen över huvud taget?
Nej, de är satanister. Inte den blaskiga formen av satanism vi iakttog på högstadiet, vi talar ren äkta satanism här. Deras bibliska uppdrag tar de på största allvar.

Givetvis är det kaos i världen de vill åt även om artikeln kan låta sund utåt sett.
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2019-06-19, 13:37
  #7
Medlem
L.D.V.Ss avatar
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Ursprungligen postat av EasyClaps
Nej, de är satanister. Inte den blaskiga formen av satanism vi iakttog på högstadiet, vi talar ren äkta satanism här. Deras bibliska uppdrag tar de på största allvar.

Givetvis är det kaos i världen de vill åt även om artikeln kan låta sund utåt sett.

KK är Jesus egen kyrka, han grundade den själv. Frågan är om han skulle tillåta att satan tog över hans egen kyrka.
Citera
2019-06-19, 14:38
  #8
Medlem
tjockballes avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av L.D.V.S
KK är Jesus egen kyrka, han grundade den själv. Frågan är om han skulle tillåta att satan tog över hans egen kyrka.

Varför inte?
Vi har haft en hel del ondska florerande i världen sen Jesus tid.
Tex pesten. Alla krigen. Mordiska psykopater som statschefer.
Behöver du mer?
Citera
2019-06-19, 14:46
  #9
Medlem
L.D.V.Ss avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av tjockballe
Varför inte?
Vi har haft en hel del ondska florerande i världen sen Jesus tid.
Tex pesten. Alla krigen. Mordiska psykopater som statschefer.
Behöver du mer?

Men KK står kvar.
Citera
2019-06-19, 15:03
  #10
Medlem
EasyClapss avatar
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av L.D.V.S
Men KK står kvar.
För Vatikanstaten är det bibliska ’Vilddjuret’ och roten till all ondska i världen. De har inget med ”Jesus” att göra, absolut ingenting i positiv bemärkelse iallafall.
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2019-06-19, 15:10
  #11
Medlem
Citat:
Ursprungligen postat av lingonfett
För någon vecka sedan kom det. Brevet heter “MALE AND FEMALE HE CREATED THEM” TOWARDS A PATH OF DIALOGUE ON THE QUESTION OF GENDER THEORY IN EDUCATION.
https://zenit.org/articles/new-vatican-document-provides-schools-with-guidance-on-gender-issues/ och är utgiven av Congregation for Catholic Education. Modigt måste jag säga.

I dokumentet konstateras det att:
1. [...] The disorientation regarding anthropology which is a widespread feature of our cultural landscape has undoubtedly helped to destabilise the family as an institution, bringing with it a tendency to cancel out the differences between men and women, presenting them instead as merely the product of historical and cultural conditioning.


2. The context in which the mission of education is carried out is characterized by challenges emerging from varying forms of an ideology that is given the general name ‘gender theory’, which “denies the difference and reciprocity in nature of a man and a woman and envisages a society without sexual differences, thereby eliminating the anthropological basis of the family. This ideology leads to educational programmes and legislative enactments that promote a personal identity and emotional intimacy radically separated from the biological difference between male and female. Consequently, human identity becomes the choice of the individual, one which can also change over time”


4. The Christian vision of anthropology sees sexuality as a fundamental component of one’s personhood. It is one of its mode of being, of manifesting itself, communicating with others, and of feeling, expressing and living human love. Therefore, our sexuality plays an integral part in the development of our personality and in the process of its education: “In fact, it is from [their] sex that the human person receives the characteristics which, on the biological, psychological and spiritual levels, make that person a man or a woman, and thereby largely condition his or her progress towards maturity and insertion into society”.6 As each person grows, “such diversity, linked to the complementarity of the two sexes, allows a thorough response to the design of God according to the vocation to which each one is called”.7 In the light of this, “affective-sex education must consider the totality of the person and insist therefore on the integration of the biological, psycho-affective, social and spiritual elements”.8

6. If we wish to take an approach to the question of gender theory that is based on the path of dialogue, it is vital to bear in mind the distinction between the ideology of gender on the one hand, and the whole field of research on gender that the human sciences have undertaken, on the other.
Och några fler intressanta punkter konstaterar de vad genus-ideologin går ut på:
12. In a growing contraposition between nature and culture, the propositions of gender theory converge in the concept of ‘queer’, which refers to dimensions of sexuality that are extremely fluid, flexible, and as it were, nomadic. This culminates in the assertion of the complete emancipation of the individual from any a priori given sexual definition, and the disappearance of classifications seen as overly rigid. This would create a new range of nuances that vary in degree and intensity according to both sexual orientation and the gender one has identified oneself with.


13. The duality in male-female couples is furthermore seen as in conflicting with the idea of “polyamory”, that is relationships involving more than two individuals. Because of this, it is claimed that the duration of relationships, as well as their binding nature, should be flexible, depending on the shifting desires of the individuals concerned. Naturally, this has consequences for the sharing of the responsibilities and obligations


Punkt 15 och 16 säger att KK är i princip överens med genusfolket om vikten av omsesidig förståelse, undervisning i ämnet och att bekämpa diskriminering pga. av kön eller "genus"-identitet.

Punkterna 20 till 23 gräver djupare i genusideologins filosofiska rötter och identifierar ett dualistisk antopologi där kroppen är helt isär viljan. Sedan identifieras det ett förnekande av det manligas och kvinligas komplementering samt en könstlöst/neutral/kastrerad utopi som mål.

21. In practice, the advocacy for the different identities often presents
them as being of completely equal value compared to each other. This, however, actually negates the relevance of each one. This has particular importance for the question of sexual difference. In fact, the generic concept of “non-discrimination” often hides an ideology that denies the difference as well as natural reciprocity that exists between men and women. “Instead of combatting wrongful interpretations of sexual difference that would diminish the fundamental importance of that difference for human dignity, such a proposal would simply eliminate it by proposing procedures and practices that make it irrelevant for a person’s development and for human relationships.But the utopia of the ‘neuter’ eliminates both human dignity in sexual distinctiveness and the personal nature of the generation of new life”.18 The anthropological basis of the concept of family is thus emptied of meaning.

22. This ideology inspires educational programmes and legislative trends that promote ideas of personal identity and affective intimacy that make a radical break with the actual biological difference between male and female. Human identity is consigned to the individual’s choice, which can also change in time. These ideas are the expression of a widespread way of thinking and acting in today’s culture that confuses “genuine freedom with the idea that each individual can act arbitrarily as if there were no truths, values and principles to provide guidance, and everything were possible and permissible”.19
23. The Second Vatican Council, wishing to express the Church’s view
of the human person, stated that “though made of body and soul, man is one. Through his bodily composition he gathers to himself the elements of the material world; thus they reach their crown through him, and through him raise their voice in free praise of the Creator”.20 Because of this dignity, “man is not wrong when he regards himself as superior to bodily concerns, and as more than a speck of nature or a nameless constituent of the city of man”.21 Therefore, “the expressions ‘the order of nature’ and ‘the order of biology’ must not be confused or regarded as identical, the ‘biological order’ does indeed mean the same as the order of nature but only in so far as this is accessible to methods of empirical and descriptive natural science, and not as a specific order of existence, with an obvious relationship to the First Cause, to God the Creator God”.22


Läs i länken ovan om ni vill få tillgång till hela dokumentet.

Frågor:
  • I. Håller ni med KK här? Varför, varför inte?
  • II. Blir den här dokumentet statskottet för bredare en kamp för tvätta bort genustramset i Västvärlden?
  • III. Kommer genusfolket ta åt sig kritiken?
  • IV. Kommer det bli en hatstorm mot KK då man vågar stå mot genustrenden?


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Citera
2019-06-19, 15:10
  #12
Medlem
JoelSUOMIs avatar
Länk funkar inte? D:
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