2009-01-15, 13:57
#1
Hej alla p flashen. Som rubriken lyder snubblade jag ver ngot p t-nation (sker p att samtliga kunniga hr lst den) om en PCT som inte faller inom ramen fr det som idag rekommenderas (i alla fall hr). I korta drag handlar det om att under 4-6 veckor (om Testo E anvnds) sakta trappa ned mngden, och detta efter avslutad cykel. Mannen som rekommenderar detta r den knda "Prisoner" som nyligen intervjuats av T-nation.
Tnkte hra med er som kan er sak hur ni ser p detta.
Nedan fjer ett urklipp frn den sticky som finns p T-nations forum:
Following the cycle use a 4-6 week waiting period also refered to as 'stasis period' by somebody.
4 weeks if you are using esters such as propinate.
esters such as cypionate and enanthate are in the middle - 4-6 week waiting period - your decision as it is a tough call. I prefer more weeks then less.
6 week waiting period for esters such as decanoate -i.e. deca.
During the waiting period you should taper off any aromatase inhibitors you are using - basically get rid of all drugs in your system besides testosterone.
Once the waiting period is over, then gradually reduce the dose weekly for 6 weeks untill you are off.
I preffer injecting enanthate twice per week as my ester of choice. But you can use propinate or sustenon as well, just devide it into 3 doses per week.
Once the taper starts, that is around the time you would start using a serm if you are going to use one.
You can taper without a serm and still be successfull doing so.
the research showed no hpta suppression while using a serm and low dose testosterone - 100mg per week
It also showed no hpta suppression with no serm use while using 25mg of testosterone enanthate per week.
So as i said it is possible to taper with our without a serm successfully.
If you are using HCG during the cycle to maintain testicular size and function - you must stop HCG at the end of your cycle and by hcg free throughout the waiting period.
So to put it all together using testosterone enanthatate dose split into biweekly injections:
Cycle ends, stop hcg if using,
start Waiting peroid:
Week 1-6 or 1-4: Test E 100mg per week
Taper off Arimidex or femara fully by week 3
Taper phase:
week 1-6
mg/ week: 80mg / 60mg/ 50mg/ 40mg/ 30 mg/ 20mg.
Start your Serm (nolva or clomid) at the begining of the taper if you choose to do so.
Tnkte hra med er som kan er sak hur ni ser p detta.
Nedan fjer ett urklipp frn den sticky som finns p T-nations forum:
Following the cycle use a 4-6 week waiting period also refered to as 'stasis period' by somebody.
4 weeks if you are using esters such as propinate.
esters such as cypionate and enanthate are in the middle - 4-6 week waiting period - your decision as it is a tough call. I prefer more weeks then less.
6 week waiting period for esters such as decanoate -i.e. deca.
During the waiting period you should taper off any aromatase inhibitors you are using - basically get rid of all drugs in your system besides testosterone.
Once the waiting period is over, then gradually reduce the dose weekly for 6 weeks untill you are off.
I preffer injecting enanthate twice per week as my ester of choice. But you can use propinate or sustenon as well, just devide it into 3 doses per week.
Once the taper starts, that is around the time you would start using a serm if you are going to use one.
You can taper without a serm and still be successfull doing so.
the research showed no hpta suppression while using a serm and low dose testosterone - 100mg per week
It also showed no hpta suppression with no serm use while using 25mg of testosterone enanthate per week.
So as i said it is possible to taper with our without a serm successfully.
If you are using HCG during the cycle to maintain testicular size and function - you must stop HCG at the end of your cycle and by hcg free throughout the waiting period.
So to put it all together using testosterone enanthatate dose split into biweekly injections:
Cycle ends, stop hcg if using,
start Waiting peroid:
Week 1-6 or 1-4: Test E 100mg per week
Taper off Arimidex or femara fully by week 3
Taper phase:
week 1-6
mg/ week: 80mg / 60mg/ 50mg/ 40mg/ 30 mg/ 20mg.
Start your Serm (nolva or clomid) at the begining of the taper if you choose to do so.